For someone new to E.C trading. What shows should I be on the lookout for if my main interest is E.C & The Attractions (or the imposters)? Good sound is preferred.
I got a show from the Spike tour featuring E.C alone which was nice and had great sound. I also got the one from Palladium in -81, amazing set and show, but the sound was rather bad, imo.
But maybe this forum is only for linking to E.C shows that pop up on the web. Sorry if such is the case :p.
What shows to look for?
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snarling pup
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EC live recordings
This site is a useful resource:
http://www.elviscostello.info/disc/bootlegs/index.php
Many well-known boots derive from soundboard or FM broadcasts, with clean sound. Here are a few to look for:
This is Tomorrow
The Gangster Is Back
Aging Gracefully
Brilliant Parade
http://www.elviscostello.info/disc/bootlegs/index.php
Many well-known boots derive from soundboard or FM broadcasts, with clean sound. Here are a few to look for:
This is Tomorrow
The Gangster Is Back
Aging Gracefully
Brilliant Parade
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That's a very very difficult question to answer Chrille.
It all depends on what you want I'm afraid. There are great quality bootlegs around now and as Elvis changes the set (sometimes dramatically) each night, the simple answer can be to go for the particular songs you like. Otherwise you end up hooked and getting almost all of the shows from a particular tour just because he changed the words of one line at one show, or interpolated two lines of another artist's song at another show etc etc. It happened to me and I'm still addicted!
If you're trading ask about the quality - every Elvis fan I've dealt with has been honest about this.
It all depends on what you want I'm afraid. There are great quality bootlegs around now and as Elvis changes the set (sometimes dramatically) each night, the simple answer can be to go for the particular songs you like. Otherwise you end up hooked and getting almost all of the shows from a particular tour just because he changed the words of one line at one show, or interpolated two lines of another artist's song at another show etc etc. It happened to me and I'm still addicted!
If you're trading ask about the quality - every Elvis fan I've dealt with has been honest about this.
Who’s this kid with his mumbo jumbo?
Hehe, well I don't have anything besides the ones I mentioned at the top. I've browsed through most of the shows in the list and there haven't been any particular tracklists that have made me go "oh I want that one!" when compared to others. Thanks for the advice and suggestions, but if you can recommend something "every EC trader should own" please do.
How about something similiar to the Palladium show:
http://www.elviscostellofans.com/phpBB2 ... php?t=3012
Only with better sound perhaps?
How about something similiar to the Palladium show:
http://www.elviscostellofans.com/phpBB2 ... php?t=3012
Only with better sound perhaps?
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A guy called svinepelz put together an Essential BOWIE Bootleg list (show below) so I guess we owe it to ourselves to do the same for Elvis. This would of course include one or two shows from every tour, one off shows, and compilations such at The Great Unknown.
Shall we do it ?
-SW
ESSENTIAL BOWIE BOOTLEGS
-------------------------------------
1969
1) Clairville Grove, Chelsea, February 2. Released as:
The Beckenham Oddity, Life Is A Circus.
--------------------
1971
2) The Friars Club, Aylesbury, September 25. Released as:
Aylesbury 71, Close To The Golden Dawn.
--------------------
1972 - THE ZIGGY STARDUST TOUR
3) Save The Whale, Royal Festival Hall, London, July 8. Released as:
David Bowie With Lou Reed*, Save The Whale etc.
* Includes another good 1972 show, Kingston Polytechnic, London, May 6.
4) Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, Los Angeles, October 20. Released as:
Santa Monica '72 (official!) etc.
5) Music Hall / Entertainment Arena, Cleveland, November 25. Released as:
Va Va Va Voom, Ziggy's Invasion Of America.
--------------------
1973 - THE ZIGGY STARDUST TOUR
6) Radio City Music Hall, New York City, February 15. Released as:
Soul Asylum.
7) Shibuya Kokaido Public Hall, Tokyo, April 20. Released as:
A Cat From London, Suicide Attack, Tokyo Was Rockin'.
Hammersmith Odeon, London, July 3. Released as:
Ziggy Stardust: The Motion Picture Soundtrack* (official!) etc.
* The official release does not include The Jean Genie / Love Me Do featuring Jeff Beck.
--------------------
1973
9) Marquee Club, London, October 20. Released as:
NBC Midnight Special.
Known as "The 1980 Floor Show".
--------------------
1974 - THE DIAMOND DOGS / PHILLY DOGS TOUR
10) Tower Theatre, Philadelphia, 8.-12. July. Released as:
David Live.
11) Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles, September 5. Released as:
A Portrait In Flesh, Strange Fascination, Duke Of LA, Super Golden Radio Shows No. 11&12 etc.
12) Radio City Music Hall, New York City, October 28. Released as:
Infected With Soul Love, Detroit 74 First Night, The Soul Tour.
--------------------
1976 - THE STATION TO STATION TOUR
13) PNE Coliseum, Vancouver, February 2. Tour rehearsals. Released as:
The Mainman And The Mainline, Raw Moon Rehearsals, The Return Of The Thin White Duke*, PNE - Live Rehearsals 1976 etc.
* See also 1978.
14) Public Auditorium, Cleveland, February 28. Released as:
Cleveland Masters, Cleveland 1976, Neoexpressionism etc.
One day after the day I was born... unfortunately, there is no recording of the 27th February 1976 performance
15) Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, March 23. Released as:
The Thin White Duke, Suffragette City, Resurrection On 84th Street etc.
A few of the songs from this incredible concert have been officially released. The Rykodisc edition of Station To Station has two tracks, and at least one or two more have been released on compilations.
16) Hallenstadion, Zürich, April 17. Released as:
Zurich 76.
--------------------
1978 - THE LOW AND HEROES WORLD TOUR
17) Inglewood Forum, Los Angeles, April 4. Released as:
Slaughter In The Air, No Ziggy Or Iggy... Just A Gigolo.
18) Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, April 11. Released as:
Bowie '78.
19) Spectrum Arena, Philadelphia, late April 78. Released as:
Stage (official).
20) Stadthalle, Vienna, May 22. Released as:
We Can Be Heroes, First Stand In Wien.
21) Musikladen TV Extra, NDF TV, Bremen, May 30. Released as:
Musikladen On Stage, The Return Of The Thin White Duke*, Secret Lounge Bremen 1977(!).
* See also 1976.
22) Scandinavium, Göteborg/Gothenburg, June 4. Released as:
Another Stage.
--------------------
1983 - THE SERIOUS MOONLIGHT WORLD TOUR
23) Las Calinas, Dallas, April 27. Tour rehearsals. Released as:
The Complete Dallas Rehearsals Vol. 1/2, The Serious Moonlight Rehearsals, The Duke And The Hawk.
The tour rehearsals featured Stevie Ray Vaughan on guitar, who didn't tour with the band.
24) Forum, Montreal, July 13. Released as:
Serious Moonlight, Live On Mars, Fame, Montreal Connection*, The Jean Genie Vol. 3&4.
* See also 1987.
--------------------
1987 - THE GLASS SPIDER WORLD TOUR
25) Olympic Stadium, Montreal, August 30. Released as:
Never Let Me Down(!), Let's Dance(!), Spyder Glass, Montreal Connection*, Montreal '87.
* See also 1983.
--------------------
1989 - THE TIN MACHINE WORLD TOUR
26) La Cigale, Paris, June 25. Released as:
High, Live & Dirty.
27) St. George's Hall, Bradford, July 2. Released as:
Now.
--------------------
1990 - THE SOUND & VISION WORLD TOUR
28) Dome, Tokyo, May 15 & 16. Released as:
Tour 1990.
A 4CD-set with both nights' performances!
29) Milton Keynes Bowl, England, August 5. Released as:
Milton Keynes Live, All Time Model, Total Recall etc.
--------------------
1991 - THE TIN MACHINE IT'S MY LIFE TOUR
30) The Citadel, Washington, November 16. Released as:
Tin Machine DC.
31) Riviera Theatre, Chicago, December 7. Released as:
The Blade And The Tongue, Heaven's In Here.
--------------------
1992 - THE TIN MACHINE IT'S MY LIFE TOUR
32) NHK Hall, Tokyo, February 6. Released as:
Goodbye Mr. Ed etc.
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1995 - THE OUTSIDE WORLD TOUR
33) Riverport Amphitheatre, St. Louis, October 11. Released as:
Live Inside, Live Hate*, Stage 1: Hurling Disdain.
* Includes the entire NiN warmup gig at the expense of Teenage Wildlife.
34) Wembley Arena, London, November 15. Released as:
Open The Dog, Teenage Daydream.
--------------------
1996 - THE OUTSIDE WORLD TOUR
35) Palais Omnisports, Paris, February 20. Released as:
Bring On The Chien.
36) Nihon Budokan Hall, Tokyo, June 4. Released as:
1. Tokyo, Hits The Road.
37) Kyusyu Koseinenkin Kaikan Hall, Osaka, June 8. Released as:
Cherry Bowie.
38) Rockpalast, Loreley Open Festival, June 22. Released as:
A Night In Loreley, Exposed Live 1996, Doggy Songs, Telling Lies, Old Odd Eyes etc.
39) Mountain View, November 19 & 20. Released as:
The Bridge Benefit Concert 1996, Fuck You All Night Long etc.
--------------------
1997 - THE EARTHLING WORLD TOUR
40) Madison Square Garden, New York, January 9. Released as:
50th Birthday Bash, 50 Dead Dogs, Happy Birthday Mr Bowie, Save The Children etc.
41) Paradiso Club, Amsterdam, June 10. Released as:
Fight Fire With Fire, Little Wonder In Paradiso.
42) Orpheum Theatre, Boston, October 1. Released as:
Cyber Live To The World, Adventures In Cyberspace.
43) Radio City Music Hall, New York, October 15. Released as:
Radio City Music Hall etc, a few tracks are on Liveandwell.com (official!)
44) Estadio Nacional, Santiago, Chile, November 5. Released as:
Voyeur.
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1999
45) VH1 Storytellers, New York, August 23. Released as:
Telling Stories, Storyteller And Beyond etc.
--------------------
1999 - THE HOURS... PROMOTIONAL TOUR
46) Elysee Montmartre, Paris, October 14. Released as:
Some Of Them Are Old, Some Of Them Are New, French Affair, Eternal Life.
47) Libro Music Hall, Vienna, October 17. Released as:
The Pretty Things Are Going To Vienna, Goodnight Vienna, cursing@the.astronette.
48) Astoria, London, December 2. Released as:
Child's Hours Live, Gone In 90 Seconds, Live At The Astoria.
--------------------
2000
49) Roseland Ballroom, New York City, June 16 or 19 (which of these is best?). Released as:
Hallo Sailor, Sailor Boy, Still Hunky Dory, A London Boy - Live In New York etc.
50) BBC Broadcasting House, London, June 27. Released as:
Bowie At The Beeb [limited edition bonus disc] (official!) etc.
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2002
51) Maida Vale, London, September 18. Released as:
On The Air, Back At The Beeb etc.
52) Roseland Ballroom, New York City, June 11. Released as:
Echoes Of Roseland etc.
53) Meltdown Festival, Royal Festival Hall, London, June 29. Released as:
Meltdown 2002, You Never Melt Me Down etc.
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2003 - THE A REALITY WORLD TOUR
54) Dublin, November 23. Released as:
The Fantastic Voyage.
"The Dublin promo" is a promo or bootleg with songs from both the Dublin shows. See also the forthcoming official DVD release from these shows.
--------------------
2004 - THE A REALITY WORLD TOUR
55) Borgata, Atlantic City, May 29 & 30. Released as:
Borgata Kill Appeal.
--------------------
Hopefully, this will be of some help. The number of performances might seem overwhelming, but David Bowie's had a long and fruitful carreer, and there's quite a lot of quality material to choose from. Suggestions for new entries are welcome. I've tried not to let my antipathy towards some of the set lists influence my judgement
Simply because a bootleg's not listed here does not mean it's not worth your time and/or money. My goal is to list only the most essential, the ones you really can't afford missing out on.
There are also a few essential bootlegs that do not primarily contain concert performances:
1) The early BBC radio sessions. Released as:
Bowie At The Beeb (official! etc.
Go to the BBC thread in the Bowieaudio vault to download BBC recordings not featured on Bowie At The Beeb.
2) The Scary Monsters demos. Released as:
Glamour, Vampires Of Human Flesh, Monsters To Ashes etc.
Contains outtakes, demos and early versions from the Scary Monsters recording sessions, plus (un)related bonus tracks.
3) The Outside outtakes. Released as:
The 100pcb 72-minute version, 9. Outsiders etc.
Contains outtakes from the Outside recording sessions, from a stolen tape reel. There are many versions floating around - the common versions are variations on the same base; a collection of snippets posted online by 100pcb. The full 70 minute version is sadly not in circulation.
4) The Omikron "soundtrack". Released as:
Omikron The Nomad Soul etc.
The music here is primarily gathered from the Omikron video game, to which David Bowie wrote the music. This is highly interesting - instrumentals, vocal tracks, even a few "bonus tracks" such as No One Calls and We All Go Through - and a few remixes. An oddity.
You'll also find a bunch of compilation bootlegs with early recordings of varying quality. The Forgotten Songs Of David Robert Jones, A Letter To Hermoine, Freddie & The Dreamer (Arnold Corns), From The Vaults Of Mainman, Pierrot In Turqouise, Space Oddities... many of these are well worth checking out.
Finally, do yourself a favour and buy the two main official collections of early material - The Deram Anthology and Early On.
Shall we do it ?
-SW
ESSENTIAL BOWIE BOOTLEGS
-------------------------------------
1969
1) Clairville Grove, Chelsea, February 2. Released as:
The Beckenham Oddity, Life Is A Circus.
--------------------
1971
2) The Friars Club, Aylesbury, September 25. Released as:
Aylesbury 71, Close To The Golden Dawn.
--------------------
1972 - THE ZIGGY STARDUST TOUR
3) Save The Whale, Royal Festival Hall, London, July 8. Released as:
David Bowie With Lou Reed*, Save The Whale etc.
* Includes another good 1972 show, Kingston Polytechnic, London, May 6.
4) Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, Los Angeles, October 20. Released as:
Santa Monica '72 (official!) etc.
5) Music Hall / Entertainment Arena, Cleveland, November 25. Released as:
Va Va Va Voom, Ziggy's Invasion Of America.
--------------------
1973 - THE ZIGGY STARDUST TOUR
6) Radio City Music Hall, New York City, February 15. Released as:
Soul Asylum.
7) Shibuya Kokaido Public Hall, Tokyo, April 20. Released as:
A Cat From London, Suicide Attack, Tokyo Was Rockin'.
Hammersmith Odeon, London, July 3. Released as:Ziggy Stardust: The Motion Picture Soundtrack* (official!) etc.
* The official release does not include The Jean Genie / Love Me Do featuring Jeff Beck.
--------------------
1973
9) Marquee Club, London, October 20. Released as:
NBC Midnight Special.
Known as "The 1980 Floor Show".
--------------------
1974 - THE DIAMOND DOGS / PHILLY DOGS TOUR
10) Tower Theatre, Philadelphia, 8.-12. July. Released as:
David Live.
11) Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles, September 5. Released as:
A Portrait In Flesh, Strange Fascination, Duke Of LA, Super Golden Radio Shows No. 11&12 etc.
12) Radio City Music Hall, New York City, October 28. Released as:
Infected With Soul Love, Detroit 74 First Night, The Soul Tour.
--------------------
1976 - THE STATION TO STATION TOUR
13) PNE Coliseum, Vancouver, February 2. Tour rehearsals. Released as:
The Mainman And The Mainline, Raw Moon Rehearsals, The Return Of The Thin White Duke*, PNE - Live Rehearsals 1976 etc.
* See also 1978.
14) Public Auditorium, Cleveland, February 28. Released as:
Cleveland Masters, Cleveland 1976, Neoexpressionism etc.
One day after the day I was born... unfortunately, there is no recording of the 27th February 1976 performance
15) Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, March 23. Released as:
The Thin White Duke, Suffragette City, Resurrection On 84th Street etc.
A few of the songs from this incredible concert have been officially released. The Rykodisc edition of Station To Station has two tracks, and at least one or two more have been released on compilations.
16) Hallenstadion, Zürich, April 17. Released as:
Zurich 76.
--------------------
1978 - THE LOW AND HEROES WORLD TOUR
17) Inglewood Forum, Los Angeles, April 4. Released as:
Slaughter In The Air, No Ziggy Or Iggy... Just A Gigolo.
18) Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, April 11. Released as:
Bowie '78.
19) Spectrum Arena, Philadelphia, late April 78. Released as:
Stage (official).
20) Stadthalle, Vienna, May 22. Released as:
We Can Be Heroes, First Stand In Wien.
21) Musikladen TV Extra, NDF TV, Bremen, May 30. Released as:
Musikladen On Stage, The Return Of The Thin White Duke*, Secret Lounge Bremen 1977(!).
* See also 1976.
22) Scandinavium, Göteborg/Gothenburg, June 4. Released as:
Another Stage.
--------------------
1983 - THE SERIOUS MOONLIGHT WORLD TOUR
23) Las Calinas, Dallas, April 27. Tour rehearsals. Released as:
The Complete Dallas Rehearsals Vol. 1/2, The Serious Moonlight Rehearsals, The Duke And The Hawk.
The tour rehearsals featured Stevie Ray Vaughan on guitar, who didn't tour with the band.
24) Forum, Montreal, July 13. Released as:
Serious Moonlight, Live On Mars, Fame, Montreal Connection*, The Jean Genie Vol. 3&4.
* See also 1987.
--------------------
1987 - THE GLASS SPIDER WORLD TOUR
25) Olympic Stadium, Montreal, August 30. Released as:
Never Let Me Down(!), Let's Dance(!), Spyder Glass, Montreal Connection*, Montreal '87.
* See also 1983.
--------------------
1989 - THE TIN MACHINE WORLD TOUR
26) La Cigale, Paris, June 25. Released as:
High, Live & Dirty.
27) St. George's Hall, Bradford, July 2. Released as:
Now.
--------------------
1990 - THE SOUND & VISION WORLD TOUR
28) Dome, Tokyo, May 15 & 16. Released as:
Tour 1990.
A 4CD-set with both nights' performances!
29) Milton Keynes Bowl, England, August 5. Released as:
Milton Keynes Live, All Time Model, Total Recall etc.
--------------------
1991 - THE TIN MACHINE IT'S MY LIFE TOUR
30) The Citadel, Washington, November 16. Released as:
Tin Machine DC.
31) Riviera Theatre, Chicago, December 7. Released as:
The Blade And The Tongue, Heaven's In Here.
--------------------
1992 - THE TIN MACHINE IT'S MY LIFE TOUR
32) NHK Hall, Tokyo, February 6. Released as:
Goodbye Mr. Ed etc.
--------------------
1995 - THE OUTSIDE WORLD TOUR
33) Riverport Amphitheatre, St. Louis, October 11. Released as:
Live Inside, Live Hate*, Stage 1: Hurling Disdain.
* Includes the entire NiN warmup gig at the expense of Teenage Wildlife.
34) Wembley Arena, London, November 15. Released as:
Open The Dog, Teenage Daydream.
--------------------
1996 - THE OUTSIDE WORLD TOUR
35) Palais Omnisports, Paris, February 20. Released as:
Bring On The Chien.
36) Nihon Budokan Hall, Tokyo, June 4. Released as:
1. Tokyo, Hits The Road.
37) Kyusyu Koseinenkin Kaikan Hall, Osaka, June 8. Released as:
Cherry Bowie.
38) Rockpalast, Loreley Open Festival, June 22. Released as:
A Night In Loreley, Exposed Live 1996, Doggy Songs, Telling Lies, Old Odd Eyes etc.
39) Mountain View, November 19 & 20. Released as:
The Bridge Benefit Concert 1996, Fuck You All Night Long etc.
--------------------
1997 - THE EARTHLING WORLD TOUR
40) Madison Square Garden, New York, January 9. Released as:
50th Birthday Bash, 50 Dead Dogs, Happy Birthday Mr Bowie, Save The Children etc.
41) Paradiso Club, Amsterdam, June 10. Released as:
Fight Fire With Fire, Little Wonder In Paradiso.
42) Orpheum Theatre, Boston, October 1. Released as:
Cyber Live To The World, Adventures In Cyberspace.
43) Radio City Music Hall, New York, October 15. Released as:
Radio City Music Hall etc, a few tracks are on Liveandwell.com (official!)
44) Estadio Nacional, Santiago, Chile, November 5. Released as:
Voyeur.
--------------------
1999
45) VH1 Storytellers, New York, August 23. Released as:
Telling Stories, Storyteller And Beyond etc.
--------------------
1999 - THE HOURS... PROMOTIONAL TOUR
46) Elysee Montmartre, Paris, October 14. Released as:
Some Of Them Are Old, Some Of Them Are New, French Affair, Eternal Life.
47) Libro Music Hall, Vienna, October 17. Released as:
The Pretty Things Are Going To Vienna, Goodnight Vienna, cursing@the.astronette.
48) Astoria, London, December 2. Released as:
Child's Hours Live, Gone In 90 Seconds, Live At The Astoria.
--------------------
2000
49) Roseland Ballroom, New York City, June 16 or 19 (which of these is best?). Released as:
Hallo Sailor, Sailor Boy, Still Hunky Dory, A London Boy - Live In New York etc.
50) BBC Broadcasting House, London, June 27. Released as:
Bowie At The Beeb [limited edition bonus disc] (official!) etc.
--------------------
2002
51) Maida Vale, London, September 18. Released as:
On The Air, Back At The Beeb etc.
52) Roseland Ballroom, New York City, June 11. Released as:
Echoes Of Roseland etc.
53) Meltdown Festival, Royal Festival Hall, London, June 29. Released as:
Meltdown 2002, You Never Melt Me Down etc.
--------------------
2003 - THE A REALITY WORLD TOUR
54) Dublin, November 23. Released as:
The Fantastic Voyage.
"The Dublin promo" is a promo or bootleg with songs from both the Dublin shows. See also the forthcoming official DVD release from these shows.
--------------------
2004 - THE A REALITY WORLD TOUR
55) Borgata, Atlantic City, May 29 & 30. Released as:
Borgata Kill Appeal.
--------------------
Hopefully, this will be of some help. The number of performances might seem overwhelming, but David Bowie's had a long and fruitful carreer, and there's quite a lot of quality material to choose from. Suggestions for new entries are welcome. I've tried not to let my antipathy towards some of the set lists influence my judgement
Simply because a bootleg's not listed here does not mean it's not worth your time and/or money. My goal is to list only the most essential, the ones you really can't afford missing out on.
There are also a few essential bootlegs that do not primarily contain concert performances:
1) The early BBC radio sessions. Released as:
Bowie At The Beeb (official! etc.
Go to the BBC thread in the Bowieaudio vault to download BBC recordings not featured on Bowie At The Beeb.
2) The Scary Monsters demos. Released as:
Glamour, Vampires Of Human Flesh, Monsters To Ashes etc.
Contains outtakes, demos and early versions from the Scary Monsters recording sessions, plus (un)related bonus tracks.
3) The Outside outtakes. Released as:
The 100pcb 72-minute version, 9. Outsiders etc.
Contains outtakes from the Outside recording sessions, from a stolen tape reel. There are many versions floating around - the common versions are variations on the same base; a collection of snippets posted online by 100pcb. The full 70 minute version is sadly not in circulation.
4) The Omikron "soundtrack". Released as:
Omikron The Nomad Soul etc.
The music here is primarily gathered from the Omikron video game, to which David Bowie wrote the music. This is highly interesting - instrumentals, vocal tracks, even a few "bonus tracks" such as No One Calls and We All Go Through - and a few remixes. An oddity.
You'll also find a bunch of compilation bootlegs with early recordings of varying quality. The Forgotten Songs Of David Robert Jones, A Letter To Hermoine, Freddie & The Dreamer (Arnold Corns), From The Vaults Of Mainman, Pierrot In Turqouise, Space Oddities... many of these are well worth checking out.
Finally, do yourself a favour and buy the two main official collections of early material - The Deram Anthology and Early On.