The Matrix
The Matrix
Am I the only person who gets nausiated whenever people bring up The Matrix and any of its spin-offs, sequels, and other assorted pariphanelia?
For a while it seemed that anybody who bought a DVD player, picked up The Matrix.
Whenever I have conversations about movies with friends, someone brings up The Matrix, assuming everybody at the table loves it. I of course grow silent and kind of remove myself from the conversation.
For a while it seemed that anybody who bought a DVD player, picked up The Matrix.
Whenever I have conversations about movies with friends, someone brings up The Matrix, assuming everybody at the table loves it. I of course grow silent and kind of remove myself from the conversation.
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Hey Blue mate, I thought I was the only one... I fooking hate the Matrix.
I hate any film where the selling point is effects.
I hate the rip-off Led Zeppelin's Kashmir by System of a Down (called Killing in the name) at the end
I hate the way people were those bloody Neo long-leathers now
I hate Keanu Reeves...get a proper name, and you haven't done a good film since Bill and Ted's bogus journey, which was average!
I hate people who think the Matrix is one of the best films ever
I hate the way people think it has a subliminal meaning
I hate this job.
I hate any film where the selling point is effects.
I hate the rip-off Led Zeppelin's Kashmir by System of a Down (called Killing in the name) at the end
I hate the way people were those bloody Neo long-leathers now
I hate Keanu Reeves...get a proper name, and you haven't done a good film since Bill and Ted's bogus journey, which was average!
I hate people who think the Matrix is one of the best films ever
I hate the way people think it has a subliminal meaning
I hate this job.
I can see your points, but I still liked "The Matrix" -- though I have to say that my suspicions that there was less than there met the eye (and most of the good stuff was borrowed from Phillip Dick and others anyhow) were sort of confirmed by the sequel, which I'm sure you guys didn't bother with (no reason to, considering). Still, I'll be there for the final act.
It wasn't all effects, it was also mood and that kind of action choreography is an art in itself.
Also, the Wachowski's first movie, "Bound," wasn't half bad.
It wasn't all effects, it was also mood and that kind of action choreography is an art in itself.
Also, the Wachowski's first movie, "Bound," wasn't half bad.
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I really liked the first Matrix. I'm reserving judgement on the 2nd and third ones. I've seen #2, which is a muddled mess so far. But it ends quite abruptly, and the third installment might clear things up. Not holding my breath.
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I am inclined to agree except on the part about Philip K Dick. I am of the opinion that the Matrix borrowed very heavily from the Mamoru Oshii anime "Ghost in the Shell" as well as the Proyas film "Dark City" and the Philip Jose Farmer penned "Riverworld" series.bobster wrote:I can see your points, but I still liked "The Matrix" -- though I have to say that my suspicions that there was less than there met the eye (and most of the good stuff was borrowed from Phillip Dick and others anyhow) were sort of confirmed by the sequel, which I'm sure you guys didn't bother with (no reason to, considering). Still, I'll be there for the final act.
It wasn't all effects, it was also mood and that kind of action choreography is an art in itself.
Also, the Wachowski's first movie, "Bound," wasn't half bad.
I think that it is great eye candy and a lot of fun as long as you remember to check in your brain at the door. The Matrix is a film that unashamedly expolits CGI effects, and that is fine by me - I think a lot of people love to hate this purely because it did become so popular.
I'm with noise. The first one had a terrific original story and contained some innovative action scenes. I never like action scenes, but these were fresh and pointed.
I didn't see 2 cause I heard it was all action. Maybe I'll rent it before 3 comes out. I here EC and Keanu have a Dogstar duet on the soundtrack.
I didn't see 2 cause I heard it was all action. Maybe I'll rent it before 3 comes out. I here EC and Keanu have a Dogstar duet on the soundtrack.
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Tim(e) and R. Ebert notwithstanding, I also didn't care much for "Dark City" -- which also seems to owe a pretty huge debt to Dick and others.
Haven't seen "Ghost" yet (I keep almost seeing it!).... <ay be right about Riverwold, I guess. It's funny, I started to read Farmer's "To Your Scattered Bodies Go" back in the height of my geekhood -- can't remember why I didn't finish. (I enjoyed his Tarzan and Doc Savage meta-books quite a bit, though.)
I guess what I relate to Dick isn't so much the plot as the overall idea, and I'm sure I might be mixing it up in my head a bit with other SF writers of the sixties and seventies, who were dealing with a lot of these ideas. (Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" comes to mind....)
Haven't seen "Ghost" yet (I keep almost seeing it!).... <ay be right about Riverwold, I guess. It's funny, I started to read Farmer's "To Your Scattered Bodies Go" back in the height of my geekhood -- can't remember why I didn't finish. (I enjoyed his Tarzan and Doc Savage meta-books quite a bit, though.)
I guess what I relate to Dick isn't so much the plot as the overall idea, and I'm sure I might be mixing it up in my head a bit with other SF writers of the sixties and seventies, who were dealing with a lot of these ideas. (Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" comes to mind....)
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It was about trying to get out of the cube! Seriously though, I just think it was about all the ironies it showed up as each of the characters' strengths, secrets and politics were revealed. Like the fact that the cop guy, who seemed most able and in charge to start with, ended up being the worst for the group, and vice versa with the 'retard'/autistic guy. Things like that, to which you could make parallels with workplaces and so on. If you tried to guess how it might go, some new thing would come up to contradict your assumptions, so I just found it very interesting.laughingcrow wrote:Cube was really good, but so screwed up...what was it about?
I also admire the fact that they must have kept costs down, since they didn't have to shoot outside the cube (though some hi-tech effects were involved). It was probably a sense of claustrophobia that turned some people off, that was my ex-girlfriend's complaint.
Check out some fan discussion if you're interested: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0123755/board/nest/869708
It was much better than The Matrix imo.
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And today's update.. I get an e-mail from my friend Jeff... a mass e-mail at that:
"Hey guys!
November 5th, is the release of the next MATRIX Revolutions. So I propose that either Nov. 5th or 6th, we go on our newly recurring pub night adventures, followed by a trip to the world where the line between man and machine is still unknown.
That's right folks!
Martinis and the Matrix,
Rum and Revolution
So much fun and excitement,
Soak in our own Aqueous Solution
Who's interested? We should buy our tickets much in advance if we are to partake in such an early screening."
All I can say is blah!!! I had to respond with negative commentary
"Hey guys!
November 5th, is the release of the next MATRIX Revolutions. So I propose that either Nov. 5th or 6th, we go on our newly recurring pub night adventures, followed by a trip to the world where the line between man and machine is still unknown.
That's right folks!
Martinis and the Matrix,
Rum and Revolution
So much fun and excitement,
Soak in our own Aqueous Solution
Who's interested? We should buy our tickets much in advance if we are to partake in such an early screening."
All I can say is blah!!! I had to respond with negative commentary
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