What´s the best debut of all time ?

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What´s the best debut of all time ?

Postby Bob And Charlotte » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:02 pm

Mr. Tambourine Man, The Clash (UK), Velvet Underground And Nico, The Band´s Music From the Big Pink, Stone Roses, #1 Record, Moby Grape, The Stooges, Steely Dan´s Can´t Buy a Thrill, Are You Experienced ?


nope,

IMHO the best debut album of all time is :

My Aim Is True ( A strangely underestimate collection in here )

Whats yours ?

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Postby BlueChair » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:12 pm

This is a good one.

I'm going to go with Van Morrison's Astral Weeks

If that doesn't count (because of Brown Eyed Girl, etc.) than I'll say Nick Drake's Five Leaves Left
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Postby Mike Boom » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:24 pm

Cant seperate these - so a three way dead heat :-

Ride - Nowhere
Television - Marquee Moon
The Smiths- The Smiths
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Postby Who Shot Sam? » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:46 pm

Talking Heads - '77 is pretty damn good as debuts go - maybe not the best, but certainly one that springs to mind.
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Postby pophead2k » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:50 pm

Couple of keepers:

Murmur: REM
The Kinks
Sorry Ma Forgot to Take Out the Trash: Replacements
Never Mind the Bollocks: Sex Pistols
Let Love Rule: Lenny Kravitz

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Postby LittleFoole » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:07 pm

Who Shot Sam? wrote:Talking Heads - '77 is pretty damn good as debuts go - maybe not the best, but certainly one that springs to mind.
I ditto that !!! 8) T Heads !!! t'was revolutionary (in it's time) for it's simplistic eccentricity....somethin' like that - sounds good at the moment ;)

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Postby noiseradio » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:11 pm

Murmer - REM
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Postby Boy With A Problem » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:17 pm

Lotsa of good choices already - a few more to add from the '76-81 era

The Ramones - The Ramones
The Specials - The Specials
The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
The Undertones - The Undertones
The Pretenders - The Pretenders
The Jam - In The City
Wire - Pink Flag
Devo - Q: Are We Not Men A: We Are Devo
Gang of Four - Entertainment
The Gun Club - Fire of Love
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Postby lostdog » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:18 pm

Walk Across the Rooftops - Blue Nile
Exploring the Axis - Thin White Rope
High Land, Hard Rain - Aztec Camera
Searching for the Young Soul Rebels - Dexys
Boy - U2
Murmur - REM
Heartbreaker - Ryan Adams (or Faithless Street - Whiskeytown)

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Postby Who Shot Sam? » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:20 pm

pophead2k wrote:Murmur: REM


A pedant writes...

That was technically not their debut, though it was their first LP. The Chronic Town EP preceded it - and that's pretty damn good too.
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Postby BlueChair » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:39 pm

pophead2k wrote:Couple of keepers:
The Kinks


Aside from a few popular singles (which probably weren't even on the UK release), I very, very rarely listen to their first album. There's something about Dave Davies' voice pre-1966 that annoys the hell out of me :lol:
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Postby noiseradio » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:07 pm

Who Shot Sam? wrote:
pophead2k wrote:Murmur: REM


A pedant writes...

That was technically not their debut, though it was their first LP. The Chronic Town EP preceded it - and that's pretty damn good too.


Quite right.

My new answer is REM - Chronic Town
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Postby so lacklustre » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:25 pm

Franz Ferdinand
The Specials
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Postby ReadyToHearTheWorst » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:18 pm

The Who - My Generation
Fleetwood Mac
The Clash
Bjork - Debut
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Postby Jackson Monk » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:44 pm

I like the suggestions for High Land, Hard Rain and the wondrous Five Leaves Left Also...

Rattlesnakes - Lloyd Cole and the Commotions
Swoon - Prefab Sprout
1977 - Ash
Hour of the Bewilderbeast - Badly Drawn Boy
Stone Roses
Teenage Fanclub - A Catholic Education
Trash Can Sinatras - Cake

However, not mentioned yet...the greatest debut ever has got to be

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Postby mood swung » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:48 am

MAIT is a good choice, B and C.

John Prine's John Prine. The whole history of the world is on that record. In neat little rhymes.
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Postby pophead2k » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:19 am

BlueChair wrote:
pophead2k wrote:Couple of keepers:
The Kinks


Aside from a few popular singles (which probably weren't even on the UK release), I very, very rarely listen to their first album. There's something about Dave Davies' voice pre-1966 that annoys the hell out of me :lol:


Understood, but with all the bands doing retro garage rock these days, this album stands up as one of the granddaddies of them all. I dare the Strokes to make an album that sounds this real.

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Postby invisible Pole » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:02 am

A few not mentioned above :
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Crowded House - Crowded House
Damien Rice - O
Tom McRae - Tom McRae
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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:03 pm

noiseradio wrote:
Who Shot Sam? wrote:
pophead2k wrote:Murmur: REM


A pedant writes...

That was technically not their debut, though it was their first LP. The Chronic Town EP preceded it - and that's pretty damn good too.


Quite right.

My new answer is REM - Chronic Town

An EP ain't an album - you were right first time!

IP beat me to it: Unknown Pleasures.

MAIT wouldn't make my list of top 10 Elvis LPs.
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Postby invisible Pole » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:18 pm

If this counts, George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass" is surely up there among the best debuts of all time.
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Postby Tim(e) » Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:48 pm

A second vote for Van the Man's Astral Weeks. Also...

Dexy's Midnight Runners - In Search of the Young Soul Rebels
Elvis Costello - My Aim is True (as if that needed to be said!)
Joe Jackson - Look Sharp
Ry Cooder - Into the Purple Valley (think it was his first)
Bob Marley and the Wailers - Catch a Fire (his debut with Island)
King Crimson - In Search of the Crimson King

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:20 pm

If it were best second album, TYM would be top of my list (well, that and Closer, of course). The gulf between MAIT and TYM is pretty enormous in my book. It's not just that the songs are much better, the whole realisation of the LP is so much more impressive and exciting.
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Postby mood swung » Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:46 pm

me-ow! :lol:

In my humble, simplistic and certainly not learned opinion, MAIT is a handy little blueprint of the next four albums. I mean, "I got this camera click-click-clickin' in my head..."


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Postby bobster » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:34 pm

X's "Los Angeles" is pretty amazing....
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Postby King Hoarse » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:37 pm

Astral Weeks for me too. (I don't count the Bang recordings, which were made for singles, but the two Them records sorta disqualifies this)

that one, or

Richard & Linda Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight (But this doesn't really count either, 'cause Linda sang on Henry The Human Fly, so they had made an album together before, and then there was Fairport...)

Other great debuts, many of which have already been mentioned:

Antony & the Johnsons
the Band - Music From Big Pink
Captain Beefheart - Safe As Milk
The Clash
Songs Of Leonard Cohen
My Aim Is True
Dag Nasty - Can I Say
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Dexys Midnight Runners - Searching For The Young Soul Rebels
Gunder Hägg - Tigerkaka
Daniel Johnston - Songs Of Pain
King Creosote - Kenny & Beth's Musakal Boat Rides
Kate & Anna McGarrigle
Nellie McKay - Get Away From Me
Modern Lovers
Randy Newman
Gram Parsons - GP (after Byrds & Burritos, this is really no debut either)
the Pixies - Come On Pilgrim/Surfer Rosa (and Frank's solo debut)
John Prine
Ramones
REM - Murmur
SNFU - And No One Else Wanted To Play
Ron Sexsmith (the eponymous one; Grand Opera Lane is more of a demo)
Patti Smith - Horses
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
the Velvet Underground & Nico
Loudon Wainwright III - Album I
Tom Waits - Closing Time
the Weakerthans - Fallow
Weezer
Zappa & The Mothers - Freak Out!
Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy (not really a debut either, but still...)
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