bambooneedle wrote:Oh, thaaaat march? Miss Buenos Aires said March for Women's Rights.
See http://www.marchforwomen.org. It was called the March for Women's Lives, not "pro-choice rally". Watch the news, dude.
bambooneedle wrote:The Washington march is above all a pro-choice thing, regarding reproduction (particular emphasis on partial-birth abortions)... choices which could also include men in the process depending on who you ask.
Yes, but the big powerful men in the US are currently trying to take these rights away from women. Yes, the decision should include men as men are a part of the whole impregnating process, but fundamentally it's the woman's body and therefore is the woman's choice.
bambooneedle wrote: "Women's rights" would encompass a whole lot more, like concerning the things I mentioned, or not much being so vague. It's no surprise that many involved in the march including celebrities decide to place the emphasis on "women's rights", though.
Concerning what, bitching about men? Yes, equal pay is important just as job opportunities and fair treatment. But that's not quite as fundamental of a <i>human right</i> as things like deciding what to do with your body.
bambooneedle wrote:And phrases like "the rights of racial minorities" or "the rights of homosexuals" or "still a long way to go" are just as almost meaningless. Still a long way to go... for what, specifically?
Uh.....equal rights? How about equal pay for racial minorities, marriage rights for homosexuals, fair legal treatment for all of the above?
bambooneedle wrote: Just because you're a woman or a man or you're gay or consider yourself as part of a racial minority, it doesn't mean that you should automatically have all the rights you want. Be specific, and the law might recognize your position.
You shouldn't automatically have all the rights you want??????? Uh....ok, no rights to kill people - but how about finally giving everyone the same basic civil rights (see above), not just straight white men. Are you arguing this??
bambooneedle wrote:Pro-choice is about the right to decide about something for yourself above anyone else doing it for you -- that's what it's about -- not about what group you're in. It's fundamental.
Exactly! And that right is currently being threatened for all women within the US, and because of the global gag order the US has imposed - worldwide. Do some reading, bamboo - this isn't exactly a secret.
And now that I'm done with my rant, let's get back to business.....
DrSpooky wrote:Margaret Sanger or Gloria Steinem? And a bit on why?
Margret Sanger. She ruled.
Carrots or Celery?