New album for 2013: "Wise Up Ghost" (with The Roots!)

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:34 am

Checking out the three new ones with some trepidation as I do hate to spoil the magic of hurrying home with a new treat on release day, but just to whet my appetite... I'm with the Mojo man or whoever it was said this was destined to be a 'future classic'. Great variety of styles and great coming together of two very different musical sensibilities. I'm utterly loving the combination of his voice/words/style with the looseness of the grooves, the heavy funk + reggae basslines, the classiness of the horns and the general lack of clutter. Could well be top of the list of Costello collabs for me. They just sound like great songs, each one distinct. Wake Me Up the only one so far that is a reinvention, and as S Punch observes, of the lyrics of two different songs. No semi-filler to these ears. Music for all seasons.

Costello seems to be going through a great late phase. On the back of an excellent album of his own, he tours incessantly with the Imposters, reviving his great 80s gag in the process, and clearly having the time of his life playing to audiences of all sizes in as many countries as possible, putting to bed his silly embargo on touring in his homeland. And then behind the scenes he was crafting something totally different and unexpected.

I remember when WIWC came out he said something about it being 'about rhythm' in a way his records couldn't usually be said to be. Apart from the title track loop and a couple of more obviously rhythmically propulsive songs, I couldn't really see what he was getting at. Seemed that was how he felt about it as the writer, but the album was a set of Costello songs the way his albums all tend to be. Finally he's made a record which is a proper marriage between Costello Songs and The Groove.
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Postby charliestumpy » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:52 am

I can hardly wait until here in UK my USA-amazon-ordered super-duper import Deluxe CD arrives ...

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Postby the_platypus » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:35 am

Here's a direct link to my rip of "Cinco Minutos Con Vos", in case anyone's having trouble with the radio feed.
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Postby the_platypus » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:38 am

I love the song. Love it. If I have one piece of criticism, it's the Spanish-language lines by Marisol are a little awkward (the words, not her voice-- she's amazing). The rhymes are a bit off and they stress the wrong syllables to make some of the words fit the meter. A bit of nitpicking on my part, nothing more. The song is lovely.

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Postby Ulster Boy » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:16 am

sweetest punch wrote:
And No Coffee Table wrote:"Wake Me Up" appears 58 minutes in:
http://s2.xrad.io/jfmplayers/ondemand.p ... fm_sne.m4a

This song is using lyrics from Bedlam and The River In Reverse.


The recurring musical theme also echoes a moment from Chewing gum (to my ears, anyway)

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Postby Neil. » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:05 am

Wake Me Up hasn't hit me like the other three - I guess because the lyrics are already familiar. But I'm prepared for it to grow on me! And yep, that's definitely the Chewing Gum bass riff in there!

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Postby verbal gymnastics » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:22 am

charliestumpy wrote:I can hardly wait until here in UK my USA-amazon-ordered super-duper import Deluxe CD arrives ...


What are the current duper and super-duper versions of the album?

I've trawled through this thread so I might have missed something but is there one version of Wise Up Ghost with 12 tracks on it or are there any versions with more than 12 tracks? Even the Japanese issues seem to have 12 tracks which is unusual.

Also in what formats is Walk Us Uptown being released in? I've seen reference to downloads but nothing about a CD single (which would probably have non-album tracks).
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Postby jardine » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:23 am

So, what is this called, actually playing riffs from other songs? Quoting instead of "sampling"? An old jazz commonplace, for sure. And I'm old fashioned enough to find it more honorable--and needing more musicianship--than simply splicing in a bit of tape.

p.s. this version of wup has 15 tracks

http://www.amazon.com/Wise-Up-Ghost-Del ... ostello%22

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Postby Jack of All Parades » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:51 am

jardine wrote:So, what is this called, actually playing riffs from other songs? Quoting instead of "sampling"? An old jazz commonplace, for sure. And I'm old fashioned enough to find it more honorable--and needing more musicianship--than simply splicing in a bit of tape.

p.s. this version of wup has 15 tracks

http://www.amazon.com/Wise-Up-Ghost-Del ... ostello%22


With you entirely on this one, Jardine. "Quoting" is a grand old tradition in jazz that pays a healthy respect to the 'roots' of the music. Any fool can splice tape. Real musicanship is involved in weaving the past into the present as a piece is played. It is a sign of respect and honor to one's peers and predecesors. All good jazz musicians do it, regularly.
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Re: New album for 2013: "Wise Up Ghost" (with The Roots!)

Postby VoiceInTheDark » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:51 am

I edited and uploaded MP3s of Viceroy's Row and Wake Me Up here. I ripped Cinco Minutos Con Vos last night too but it looks like the_platypus beat me to it :wink:

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Postby verbal gymnastics » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:10 am

jardine wrote:p.s. this version of wup has 15 tracks

http://www.amazon.com/Wise-Up-Ghost-Del ... ostello%22


Thank you very much. I couldn't find this version when I looked but that's probably due to my competency on the webbernet.

Now, who can answer me about Walk Us Uptown...
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Postby Neil. » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:52 am

Verbalicious, Wise Up Ghost Deluxe version with 15 tracks is now also on Amazon.co.uk:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D2I8E46

Alas, I can't answer you about a CD single for Walk Us Uptown - but I seriously doubt there'll be one! Does anyone release CD singles any more?

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Postby A rope leash » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:26 pm

I am really enjoying the tracks released so far.

I have no criticisms.

I hope the full recording breaks into something a little more upbeat now and then. I tend to get sleepy.






...couldn't call it unexpected, or rock and roll.

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Postby verbal gymnastics » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:37 pm

Neil. wrote:Verbalicious, Wise Up Ghost Deluxe version with 15 tracks is now also on Amazon.co.uk:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D2I8E46

Alas, I can't answer you about a CD single for Walk Us Uptown - but I seriously doubt there'll be one! Does anyone release CD singles any more?


Thanks dear boy! :wink: The deluxe version isn't on any of my usual other sources. I'll wait to see if there's a deluxe Japanese version in case there's another track.

I want a CD single with more unreleased tracks.
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Postby sweetest punch » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:47 pm

VoiceInTheDark wrote:I edited and uploaded MP3s of Viceroy's Row and Wake Me Up here. I ripped Cinco Minutos Con Vos last night too but it looks like the_platypus beat me to it :wink:

Please be carefull with distributing copyrighted material. Think about EC's lawyers!
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Postby VoiceInTheDark » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:53 pm

Please be carefull with distributing copyrighted material. Think about EC's lawyers!


Sorry, I didn't think it would be a problem given that they're not commercially available yet (hence why I didn't include Walk Us Uptown which is available on itunes). I can take them down if it's against the forum rules.
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Postby johnfoyle » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:58 pm

One of the attractions of the disc I've been listening to is the fact that it has only 12 tracks and the way they are sequenced,particularly the final track. It's just perfect. That's probably an affect that Elvis 'n co have gone for and feel serves it best. I look forward to hearing the extra tracks but right now it would be something akin to - if I may quote a particularly pompous but true description who's origin I can't remember - putting a mustache on the Mona Lisa

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Postby charliestumpy » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:53 am

Although I am very pleased that people are extracting pleasure from this collaboration, so far:

1) amazon USA are the only one that lists the tracks properly/has the extra (non-Japanese etc etc so far...) tracks.

2) My copy is still on order here in UK from USA, for less than the poor-details UK amazon (with whom I spend many hundreds of pounds annually).

3) Ideally, all would be available everywhere nicely on analogue vinyl, but 3rd-best CD after analogue tape (rather than mankey low bit-rate d'load-only) is sonically superior to most non-BD digital alternatives.

4) ENJOY in the meantime all of your proper EC analogue vinyl ...

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Re: New album for 2013: "Wise Up Ghost" (with The Roots!)

Postby cwr » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:16 am

WUG is coming out on DECCA records in the UK, is that right?

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Postby jardine » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:34 pm

Decca in the UK is what was said on two of the three recently posted radio broadcasts in this thread...

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Postby the_platypus » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:42 pm

People from the EC/Roots camp have expressed that they don't want these recordings available, so I took down the "Cinco Minutos Con Vos" BBC rip mp3. I encourage you guys to do the same with the others.
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Postby jardine » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:51 pm

i do remember, back in (gulp) 1964/5, hearing a song and then having to wait to hear it again. reminds me of what it used to be like to have to wait for strawberry season to eat strawberries. not altogether a bad thing...glad you took down the song...hopefully the boys want to have control over how we will be teased over the next weeks of waiting...

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Postby the_platypus » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:10 pm

Yeah. There's also the fact that putting out these files-- even if the message board does feel insular and self-contained-- we may be ruining the surprise for other folks.

Anyway, I know I personally won't be clicking on any more of these links. The album comes out in a few weeks. I think I can exercise some constraint. :-)

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Postby VoiceInTheDark » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:40 am

I deleted my files too.

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Postby seanpointblank » Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:21 am

It'd be a shame if these files were available before 95% of people just streamed these tracks off Spotify for fractions of pennies. :mrgreen:


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