Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years -release cancelled?

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Re: Hip-O Records will release Pomp & Pout by Elvis on June

Postby Neil. » Tue May 11, 2010 5:09 am

I absolutely love 'Impatience'! Yep, agreed - one of the best tracks of the past ten years... sod it, one of the best tracks of his entire career! Beautiful production, melody, arrangement - the whole thing is thrilling.

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Re: Hip-O Records will release Pomp & Pout by Elvis on June

Postby wordnat » Tue May 11, 2010 5:20 pm

Hmmmm...."Impatience" has never done anything for me at all -- will give it a fresh listen. But "Burnt Sugar is So Bitter" is masterful! I have a lo-fi audience recording that I've been listening to since '99 -- GREAT song!

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Re: Hip-O Records will release Pomp & Pout by Elvis on June

Postby sweetest punch » Tue May 18, 2010 11:14 am

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Re: Hip-O Records will release Pomp & Pout by Elvis on June

Postby blureu » Sun May 23, 2010 9:08 pm

You can view a small image of the P&P cover here:

http://www.directcurrentmusic.com/dc-mu ... ng-pr.html

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Re: Hip-O Records will release Pomp & Pout by Elvis on June

Postby migdd » Sun May 23, 2010 9:10 pm

Awful cover. Wonder about the track listing. Looking for a reason to buy this.

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Re: Hip-O Records will release Pomp & Pout by Elvis on June

Postby johnfoyle » Mon May 24, 2010 12:52 am

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby DrJ » Mon May 24, 2010 5:36 pm

Reminds me of this:
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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby And No Coffee Table » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:56 am

Track listing from Barnes & Noble:

1 Bedlam
2 Stella Hurt
3 No Hiding Place
4 This House is Empty Now
5 Impatience
6 Tart
7 The Sweetest Punch
8 My Mood Swings
9 When I Was Cruel No. 2
10 Ascension Day
11 Dust
12 Country Darkness
13 45
14 In the Darkest Place
15 The River In Reverse
16 Monkey To Man
17 In Another Room
18 Still

Product description from Amazon:

Pomp & Pout - The Universal Years, is the first ever collection of Elvis Costello's material from the years of 1998-2008, and provides a sonic bookend to the successful compilation The Best Of Elvis Costello - The First 10 Years (Hip-O). Pomp & Pout was compiled by Mr. Costello and features b-sides,rarities and work from soundtracks along side other album highlights.

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby And No Coffee Table » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:03 am

Songs I'm most surprised aren't included: "She" (his only real hit from the period, but it was already on The Very Best of Elvis Costello), "God Give Me Strength" (although it's actually from 1996 and was also on The Very Best of), and "The Scarlet Tide."

Song I never in a million years would have guessed would be included: "The Sweetest Punch."

I'm assuming "Dust" is "Dust 2..."

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby snapyou » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:54 am

that is one weird track list. Who is it meant to appeal to?

This will vanish without trace.

Now where's the latest live cd?!

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby johnfoyle » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:54 pm

Excellent selection! Properly marketed , this could really do the business.

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby wardo68 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:49 pm

I count three "rare"-ish tracks, and those who support "Impatience" will be happy. But yeah, it's not quite the selection I'd've put together. Think there will be any liner notes? Extreme Honey at least had something.

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby Neil. » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:36 pm

Glad 'In Another Room' is on there - always thought it's one of his best later cuts. Impatience - fab! Had to be included! Tart, too, I've always loved - though I'm surprised the amazing Doll Revolution isn't on there. No idea how this will go down - it hasn't been given the subtitle 'Best of', which I think most curious non-fans would respond to... obviously we hardened fans don't need to buy this, so let's see how it goes!

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby wordnat » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:17 pm

This is just silly -- it will probably sell about 16 copies. What a ludicrous tracklisting ("This House is Empty Now"? Really?)! I'm assuming a monkey and a dartboard were involved....

Whatever -- bring on "American Ransom" already!

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby migdd » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:37 pm

Okay, pick 18 songs that best represent the Universal years that should have been on the album. Criteria:

1. Must have 2-3 "off-album" tracks
2. No more than 4 songs per any given album
3. Must contain at least one track from each major studio album (which I guess means "For the Stars" and "Il Sogno" don't count.)
4. Songs must be representative of the album they are from. (Not necessarily personal favorites - we don't care.)

Honestly, the list I came up with wasn't too much different from the actual tracklisting for P&P.

If I had to choose my favorite set of tracks from the Universal years, I'd probably just re-release The Delivery Man. :lol: :twisted: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby bronxapostle » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:12 pm

okay, this one i only want upon vinyl if it costs me $15 or less!!!

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby wordnat » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:37 pm

Here's a "Pomp & Pout" to be proud of -- only eight tracks from the released version made my cut:

My Mood Swings
In the Darkest Place
I Still Have that Other Girl
45
Tart
My Little Blue Window
When I was Cruel No.1
Still
You Left Me in the Dark
Impatience
Country Darkness
Either Side of the Same Town
The Scarlet Tide
The Sharpest Thorn
No Hiding Place
Turpentine
Song with Rose
Harry Worth

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby migdd » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:12 pm

Good list.

Here's mine:

1 45
2 Stella Hurt
3 Song With Rose
4 Still Have That Other Girl
5 Impatience
6 Episode of Blonde
7 The River In Reverse
8 My Mood Swings
9 When I Was Cruel No. 2
10 The Sharpest Thorn
11 Pardon Me Madame, My Name is Eve
12 Country Darkness
13 Monkey To Man
14 In the Darkest Place
15 In Another Room
16 Either Side of the Same Town
17 Scarlet Tide
18 I'm In the Mood Again

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby cwr » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:24 pm

All good songs, but as I predicted-- an ODD compilation.

I guess it does a reasonable job of picking out some high points-- leaning heaviest on WIWC and TDM and relegating North to its most accessible-sounding tracks (Impatience, yayy!) But while his first "best of" in the 80s felt like it was made up of his most essential "hits", and Extreme Honey felt like a handful of obvious singles like "Veronica" and "The Other Side Of Summer" alongside a few personal favorites, this almost seems like an arbitrary sampler. (I think you could make a comparable track listing simply by picking one of the songs adjacent to the ones picked here, substituting, for example, "Toledo" for "In The Darkest Place" or "Either Side Of The Same Town" for "Bedlam.")

(It is interesting that he chose to open this collection with Bedlam, given his recent cancellation of the concerts in Israel, esp. considering that it's not an obvious candidate for a "best of" let alone the opening track...)

Will I buy this? Damn, I really don't know. There's certainly no earthly REASON why I should buy it, heaven knows. I more than got my money's worth out of buying Extreme Honey back in 96, I was obsessed with "The Bridge I Burned" and listened to it over and over. But here and now, in 2010, do I really need to buy a collection of songs I already have? I feel like the fact that I even ask the question is a sign that there's something wrong with me...

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby Ypsilanti » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:29 am

Agree that it's an "odd" group of songs--but of course, each of the records they come from has such a specific stylistic focus--not like the old days when it was all just Rock & Roll. Also agree that "My Mood Swings" might have made a better title. For what it's worth, here's my list. Looks like I also don't have many in common with the actual record. I'm a little stunned "The Sweetest Punch" beat out "Toledo". And no "Harry Worth"? That's a shame.

In the Darkest Place
Toledo
My Mood Swings
WIWC 2
...Dust
15 Petals
Still
Impatience
I'm in the Mood Again
Bedlam
Monkey to Man
In Another Room
The River in Reverse
The Sharpest Thorn
Harry Worth
Go Away
My Three Sons
Flutter & Wow
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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby cwr » Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:13 am

I agree-- "My Mood Swings" would have been the perfect title for this collection! How could Elvis have passed that one up??

Interestingly, your choice of "15 Petals" made me think, "there's no WAY Elvis would've included that song," simply because, like "My Little Blue Window", it's a pre-breakup song that was sort of about Cait. Then it hit me that "My Mood Swings" was co-written with Cait!

Given the fact that, after vaguely writing about the split in the first half of NORTH, Costello has subsequently erased any reference to her in the liner notes to the reissues of KOA and TJL-- the original CD credited her with being the one to direct his attention to the story of the Veronese professor answering letters to Juliet, while the Rhino edition simply states, "So there was this professor in Verona", while the Rhino KOA not only cuts the mention of co-writing "Loveable" with Cait but actually manages to add in a reference Diana Krall in relation to bassist Ray Brown!-- I'm guessing that the inclusion of "My Mood Swings" means that he likes the song enough to overlook the link to his previous relationship.

I HOPE that means that someday he will actually release the Wendy James demos, most of which were co-written with O'Riordan. (My assumption was that any plans to include these during his Rhino reissue series were possibly abandoned due to the breakup, but that's just speculation on my part. I also heard somewhere that he had simply misplaced the master tapes and couldn't find them anywhere...)

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby Ypsilanti » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:31 am

Interestingly, your choice of "15 Petals" made me think, "there's no WAY Elvis would've included that song," simply because, like "My Little Blue Window", it's a pre-breakup song that was sort of about Cait.


You're right--I'd even say "15 Petals" might have been something like an anniversary gift for Cait--so I thought the same thing--he would never include it on the record. But it's too bad because it's a great song--the horns are mind-blowing.

"Tart", on the other hand seems (to me) to be more of a falling-out-of-love-song--so maybe it sits better with him. (And I feel those 2 songs fit nicely with the much-maligned "Alibi", which sounds to me like a really cathartic "Fuck you, Cait".)
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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby Lester Burnham » Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:11 pm

It's a pretty surprising collection. I was certainly that 'Episode Of Blonde', 'The Sharpest Thorn', and 'The Scarlet Tide' would have been on there, for sure. Here's mine, for what it's worth:

1. Episode Of Blonde
2. My Mood Swings
3. Stella Hurt*
4. Tear Off Your Own Head (It's A Doll Revolution)
5. There's a Story In Your Voice
6. Impatience
7. I Still Have That Other Girl
8. Such Unlikely Lovers (live, with Steve Nieve)
9. The River In Reverse
10. My Blue Window
11. Pardon Me Madam, My Name Is Eve
12. 45
13. Monkey to Man
14. The Greatest Love
15. Heart Shaped Bruise
16. Either Side of the Same Town
17. When I Was Cruel (No.1)
18. In Another Room (minus the 'Tipitina' ending)
19. The Scarlet Tide
20. I'm In The Mood Again
21. The Sharpest Thorn

*I was hoping to include 'Turpentine' on here instead of 'Stella Hurt', but I wanted to have the EC/Steve Nieve version of 'Such Unlikely Lovers' on there -- not necessarily because I'm a huge fan of the song, but because I wanted something from the Lonely World tour to be represented.

Also, I cheated and put 21 on there instead of 18! Whoops :) But it DOES fit onto a CD, albeit just barely, which is why I'd cut the 'Tipitina' ending of 'In Another Room'. I suppose if I had to get rid of three songs, they'd be... um... er... sheesh, I dunno. I'll just remain a rule-breaker.

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby Hawksmoor » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:07 am

I don't suppose there's any chance that 'In Another Room' might be a fully-produced studio version rather than the out-take we already have? Great though it is, it has a slightly rough-hewn/unfinished feel. I'd love to hear a full-band or even orchestrated version.

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Re: Pomp & Pout: Best of The Universal Years , July 13 '10

Postby sweetest punch » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:43 am

Hawksmoor wrote:I don't suppose there's any chance that 'In Another Room' might be a fully-produced studio version rather than the out-take we already have? Great though it is, it has a slightly rough-hewn/unfinished feel. I'd love to hear a full-band or even orchestrated version.

We can only hope for a few surprises like that.
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