Rank Brutal Youth

King Hoarse · Post by **King Hoarse** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:29 pm

Finally I've decided to ignore the impossibility of the task of ranking what I think is EC's most evenly brilliant record (although sometimes marred by the elsewhere discussed halfbaked production). Really 1-7 would be first place, 8-12 second (I prefer all of those to anything off The Delivery Man, for example, and I like that record too) and then the last three close behind.

1. Sulky Girl
2. Favourite Hour
3. 13 Steps Lead Down
4. London's Brilliant Parade
5. Rocking Horse Road
6. Kinder Murder
7. You Tripped At Every Step
8. Clown Strike (minus points for Nick Lowe's lazy bass)
9. All The Rage (probably my favourite EC song to wail and play myself)
10. Pony Street
11. 20% Amnesia
12. Just About Glad
13. This Is Hell
14. My Science Fiction Twin
15. Still Too Soon To Know

alexv · Post by **alexv** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:39 pm

Terrific EC record with more than half the record's songs having become favorites (1-8 to be exact). The others, with the exception of 15 which I do not like, I don't enjoy as much.

1. Just About Glad
2. Clown Strike
3. Rocking Horse Road
4. London's Brilliant Parade
5. My Science Fiction Twin
6. This Is Hell
7. All The Rage
8. 13 Steps Lead Down
9. Sulky Girl
10. You Tripped at Every Step
11. Still Too Soon To Know
12. Pony Street
13.Kinder Murder
14. Favourite Hour
15. 20% Amnesia

wardo68 · Post by **wardo68** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:12 am

Hooray! The King is back!

1. All The Rage
2. Kinder Murder
3. You Tripped At Every Step
4. Rocking Horse Road
5. London's Brilliant Parade
6. Favourite Hour
7. 13 Steps Lead Down
8. Pony St.
9. Sulky Girl
10. Clown Strike
11. Still Too Soon To Know
12. Just About Glad
13. This Is Hell
14. 20% Amnesia
15. My Science Fiction Twin

So here's my problem with this album: it seems forced. I'm the only one I know who doesn't adore "Just About Glad", which sounds to me like he set out to write a clever song. Once the Rhino reissue happened and I got to hear some of the tracks before Mitchell Froom put his production stamp in I was able to appreciate them more. But not much. It's a good album, but I don't love it like I love others of his.

And No Coffee Table · Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:57 am

1. 20% Amnesia (what's this doing at or near the bottom of the other lists?!)
2. All The Rage
3. Favourite Hour
4. Sulky Girl
5. Kinder Murder
6. Rocking Horse Road
7. Just About Glad
8. London's Brilliant Parade
9. You Tripped At Every Step
10. 13 Steps Lead Down
11. Still Too Soon To Know
12. Pony St
13. Clown Strike
14. This Is Hell
15. My Science Fiction Twin

RinghioStarr · Post by **RinghioStarr** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:22 am

Surely one of my favourite records by EC, althougn I've never liked "Just About Glad".

1. You Tripped At Every Step
2. Favourite Hour
3. All The Rage
4. Still Too Soon To Know
5. Clown Strike
6. 20% Amnesia
7. London's Brilliant Parade
8. Pony St
9. Sulky Girl
10. 13 Steps Lead Down
11. Kinder Murder
12. This Is Hell
13. My Science Fiction Twin
14. Rocking Horse Road
15. Just About Glad

manoutoftime · Post by **manoutoftime** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:58 am

1. You Tripped At Everystep
2. Sulkygirl
3. This Is Hell
4. 13 Steps
5. Pony Street
6. All The Rage
7. Kinder Murder
8. Favourite Hour
9. Londons Brilliant Parade
10. Rockinghorse Road
11. Clown Strike
12. Still Too Soon To Know
13. Just About Glad
14. My Science Fiction Twin
15. 20% Amnesia

Chrille · Post by **Chrille** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:44 am

This how I feel about it right now.

1. All The Rage
2. Clown Strike
3. You Tripped At Every Step
4. Thirteen Steps Lead Down
5. Pony Street
6. 20% Amnesia
7. Londons Brilliant Parade
8. Favourite Hour
9. Sulky Girl (too long)
10. Kinder Murder
11. Rocking Horse Road
12. My Science Fiction Twin
13. This Is Hell
14. Just About Glad
15. Still Too Soon To Know (nice song, shittiest production ever)

Extreme Honey · Post by **Extreme Honey** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:59 am

Beautiful cd, but again my views are way off regarding the ranks in which I'll give these songs:

1.Still too soon to know
2.Sulky Girl
3.You Tripped at every step
4.Rocking Horse Road
5.Favorite Hour
6.All the Rage
7.Clown Strike
8.20% Amnesia
9.Pony Street
10.Londons Brilliant Parade
11.My Sciene Fiction Twin
12.Thirteen Steps Lead Down
13.This Is Hell
14.Kinder Murder
15.Just about glad

How can anyone not love Still too soon to know??!!

RinghioStarr · Post by **RinghioStarr** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:03 am

What's so bad in the production?

wardo68 · Post by **wardo68** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:16 am

RinghioStarr wrote:What's so bad in the production?

For me, Mitchell Froom makes the bass sound like it's underwater, and makes the drums sound like they're being thrown down a flight of stairs. Not just on Elvis's albums, but other things he's done as well. Again, it's just a personal quirk of mine.

Bassface127 · Post by **Bassface127** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:55 am

1 Thirteen Steps Lead Down
2 Kinder Murder
3 20% Amnesia
4 Sulky Girl
5 Clown Strike
6 My Sciene Fiction Twin
7 Londons Brilliant Parade
8 All the Rage
9 You Tripped at every step
10 Still too soon to know
11 Rocking Horse Road
12 Just about glad
13 Pony Street
14 This Is Hell
15 Favorite Hour

Obviously I go for the more rocking/punk stuff. I think Just About Glad is too easy a subject. Same with Pony Street.

Emotional Toothpaste · Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:14 pm

1. Pony Street
2. Sulky Girl
3. Kinder Murder
4. All the Rage
5. Rocking Horse Rd.
6. 13 Steps
7. You Tripped at every step
8. Favorite Hour
9. Londons Brilliant Parade
10. Just About Glad
11. Clown Strike
12. This is Hell
13. Still Too Soon to Know
14. My Science FictionTwin
15. 20 % Amnesia

And No Coffee Table · Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:32 pm

wardo68 wrote:For me, Mitchell Froom makes the bass sound like it's underwater, and makes the drums sound like they're being thrown down a flight of stairs. Not just on Elvis's albums, but other things he's done as well. Again, it's just a personal quirk of mine.

Maybe it's just me, but I think the two songs recorded at Pathway Studios by just EC and Pete Thomas ("Kinder Murder" and "20% Amnesia"*) and the five with the full Attractions lineup ("13 Steps Lead Down," "This Is Hell," "Sulky Girl," "You Tripped At Every Step," "London's Brilliant Parade") sound fantastic.

It's the seven songs with Nick Lowe on bass ("Pony St," "Clown Strike," "Still Too Soon To Know," "My Science Fiction Twin," "Rocking Horse Road," "Just About Glad," "All The Rage") that disappoint. These are mostly well-written songs, but they don't come off as well as they should on the album. I doubt it's Nick's fault. It just seems like there's an all-around lack of genuine enthusiasm in these recordings.

I think Brutal Youth would have been a better album if at least a few of these songs had been recut with all the Attractions.

* Steve Nieve plays on "20% Amnesia," but his part was added after the original session.

Chrille · Post by **Chrille** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:36 pm

I didn't know which songs were recorded by Lowe and which were recorded with the Attractions, but now that I do I must say that I think the ones recorded with Lowe are the better ones IMO.

Miss Macbeth · Post by **Miss Macbeth** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:17 am

Tough call but here goes...

1. you tripped at every step
2. this is hell
3. 13 steps lead down
4. pony street
5. clown strike
6. kinder murder
7. all the rage
8. sulky girl
9. just about glad
10. rocking horse road
11. london's brilliant parade
12. still too soon to know
13. favourite hour
14. my science fiction twin
15. 20% amnesia (i like the lyrics, but don't care for the song at all)

Extreme Honey · Post by **Extreme Honey** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:30 am

You hear me say it before and you'll hear me say it agin. I simply don't care for the production as much as the song's meaning, as any serious EC fan should.

Post by **BlueChair** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:32 pm

Blah blah blah

1. All the Rage
2. This is Hell
3. Kinder Murder
4. Favourite Hour
5. 13 Steps
6. You Tripped at every step
7. Sulky Girl
8. Just About Glad
9. Pony Street
10. Londons Brilliant Parade
11. Clown Strike
12. Rocking Horse Rd.
13. 20 % Amnesia
14. My Science FictionTwin
15. Still Too Soon to Know

John · Post by **John** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:03 pm

1. Sulky Girl
2. 13 Steps Lead Down
3. Kinder Murder
4. All The Rage
5. Pony Street
6. Rocking Horse Road
7. Still Too Soon To Know
8. London's Brilliant Parade
9. Clown Strike
10. Just About Glad
11. This Is Hell
12. You Tripped At Every Step
13. My Science Fiction Twin
14. Favourite Hour
15. 20% Amnesia

Branst · Post by **Branst** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:33 pm

01. This Is Hell
02. Clown Strike
03. Rocking Horse Road
04. All The Rage
05. Just About Glad
06. Kinder Murder
07. Pony Street
08. Still Too Soon To Know
09. 13 Steps Lead Down
10. 20% Amnesia
11. You Tripped At Every Step
12. Sulky Girl
13. My Science Fiction Twin
14. London's Brilliant Parade
15. Favourite Hour

Jackson Monk · Post by **Jackson Monk** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:23 pm

01. London's Brilliant Parade
02. You Tripped At Every Step
03. Sulky Girl
04. All The Rage
05. Just About Glad
06. Still Too Soon To Know
07. Pony Street
08. Rocking Horse Road
09. 13 Steps Lead Down
10. 20% Amnesia
11. Favourite Hour
12.Clown Strike
13. My Science Fiction Twin
14. Kinder Murder
15. This Is Hell

invisible Pole · Post by **invisible Pole** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:50 am

01. London's Brilliant Parade
02. You Tripped At Every Step
03. All The Rage
04. Just About Glad
05. Sulky Girl
06. Still Too Soon To Know
07. Favourite Hour
08. Kinder Murder
09. This Is Hell
10. Rocking Horse Road
11. Pony Street
12. 13 Steps Lead Down
13. Clown Strike
14. 20% Amnesia
15. My Science Fiction Twin

strangerinthehouse · Post by **strangerinthehouse** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:55 am

One of My Favorite EC albums, I don't care about the production or who plays the better bass i just love this one. 1-12 are #1 in my book and the last two keep fighting to get in there.

1. Favorite hour
2. 13 Steps lead down
3. All the rage
4. Kinder Murder
5. This is hell
6. Rocking Horse Road
7. You tripped at every step
8. Pony st.
9. Clown Strike
10. London's brilliant Parade
11. Still to soon to Know
12. Sulky Girl
13. Just about Glad
14. 20% Amnesia
15. My science Fiction twin

El Vez · Post by **El Vez** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:09 pm

1. Kinder Murder
2. Clown Strike
3. This Is Hell
4. You Tripped At Every Step
5. Still Too Soon To Know
6. Just About Glad
7. 13 Steps Lead Down
8. London's Brilliant Parade
9. Pony St.
10. All The Rage
11. My Science Fiction Twin
12. Rocking Horse Road
13. Sulky Girl
14. 20% Amnesia
15. Favourite Hour

invisible Pole · Post by **invisible Pole** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:01 pm

Amazing! 12 different songs from the album have so far got to Number One spot.

pip_52 · Post by **pip_52** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:02 pm

1. Just About Glad
2. All The Rage
3. Favourite Hour
4. Kinder Murder
5. My Science Fiction Twin
6. Sulky Girl
7. London's Brilliant Parade
8. Clown Strike
9. Still Too Soon To Know
10. This Is Hell
11. 13 Steps Lead Down
12. You Tripped At Every Step
13. Rocking Horse Road
14. Pony St.
15. 20% Amnesia