1979 , Get Happy sleevenote/'highwire Elvis'

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Postby wardo68 » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:27 pm

The jacket of my wife's vinyl says side one starts with "ICSUFFD". The first song on side one (per the label) is "Love For Tender".

The first song on the outside of the cassette I bought in 1986 is "ICSUFFD". The first song on "side one" on the actual cassette is "Love For Tender". (While it doesn't have the cool graphics that Mr. Foyle posted above, it does have the note from "your friend, Nick Lowe, producer" which as far as I can tell, did not make it to any other version after that.)

The Columbia CD, Ryko CD and Rhino CD I have all begin with "Love For Tender". In fact I recall reading that the reason why the demo of "Love For Tender" was truncated on the Ryko CD was to bring the whole package full circle, back where we started.

However you cut it, this is still solidly in my top 5 EC albums. It's been that way for 20+ years now, and I don't expect that will change.

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Postby bambooneedle » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:38 pm

Otis Westinghouse wrote:Seriously, though, regarding the two sides issue, I would swear it was deliberate not an error to do it that way. 20 songs was like two LPs for the price of one, so I read it as a playful attempt to make an LP equivalent of a double A-side single. It would be interesting to know more about that detail, so if any of you meet Elvis soon...

Yes, someone should ask him about this, and which side he prefers as side 1. LFT etc, no doubt.

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Postby verbal gymnastics » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:08 am

Otis Westinghouse wrote:Yes, but the CD gets it wrong. Elvis shouldn't have allowed it. How come you think this, VG?


It just is OK?! :lol:

pophead2k wrote:Love For Tender is a much better opener than ICSUFFD. Riot Act is a much better closer than High Fidelity


Absolutely.

Otis Westinghouse wrote:Didn't you have it on vinyl back in the day?


But of course! I had the poster insert on my bedroom wall.

John wrote:It was also Man Called Uncle way back then, sleeve, label, cassette....


This has been a question that has bugged me for years. When did "Man Called Uncle" become "Men Called Uncle"? I wrote to Beyond Belief about this years ago but never received a reply.
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Postby And No Coffee Table » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:48 am

verbal gymnastics wrote:This has been a question that has bugged me for years. When did "Man Called Uncle" become "Men Called Uncle"? I wrote to Beyond Belief about this years ago but never received a reply.


It was first listed that way on the Ryko/Demon reissue in 1994, but it had been introduced in concert as "Men Called Uncle" during the 1984 solo tour (for instance, December 3, 1984 at the Royal Festival Hall). I really think "Men Called Uncle" was always the intended title.

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:55 pm

But Man Called Uncle refs the immortal Man From U.N.C.L.E. so much better. Who was the blond actor who was Ilya Kuryakin, if that's right? He made an LP called 'Music - A Part of Me' which apparently has to be heard to be believed.
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Postby Boy With A Problem » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:48 pm

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:22 pm

God my memory is going with age. Heard the LP?
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Postby martinfoyle » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:49 pm

John picked up a vinyl copy at a flea market during our first visit to the US back in 1982. It's actually quite pleasant, though I imagine the jazz cigarettes brigade had a totally different perspective back in the day. Plent of cheap cd copies and snippets here, and here, so you may judge for yourself.

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Postby bambooneedle » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:08 am

verbal gymnastics wrote:
John wrote:It was also Man Called Uncle way back then, sleeve, label, cassette....


This has been a question that has bugged me for years. When did "Man Called Uncle" become "Men Called Uncle"? I wrote to Beyond Belief about this years ago but never received a reply.

Another question to ask EC.

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Postby johnfoyle » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:12 pm

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/04/092808.php

Vinyl Tap: Elvis Costello - Get Happy!!
June 04, 2006
Gordon Hauptfleisch

I get a new turntable and dust off some old albums. Vinyl Tap #15:

One of my favorite advertising slogans centers around Get Happy!! — Elvis Costello's fourth studio album: “20 Songs — All Different!â€

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Postby johnfoyle » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:52 am

Another interesting analysis of GH -

http://www.benigncomedy.com/2007/07/cos ... ts-20.html

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Re: 1979 , Get Happy sleevenote

Postby johnfoyle » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:17 pm

Elvis wrote about promoting a single from this album -

http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/inde ... _1977-1987


There have been numerous opportunities to make a complete fool of myself, like being persuaded to be “flown” on a pantomime wire while miming to “I Can’t Stand Up For Falling Down” by those witty Top Of The Pops people, and then having to get blind drunk in order to do it because of a fear of heights.


http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/inde ... 1980-02-28
Top Of The Pops, Feb. 1980

This priceless moment is now on youtube-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-K0n9D50pQ

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Postby thepopeofpop » Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:24 pm

It's just occured to me that starting the album with LFT on the CD isn't just a one-time "error".

The CD was first issued back in 86 by Demon, and then by Columbia in the US. Then it was reissued by Rykodisc and Demon in the 90s - a completely different remastered edition. Then it was remastered again by Rhino in the early 2000s, and then it was reissued all over again by Universal in 2006. If starting the CD with LFT was a mistake then the Powers the Be have had lots of opportunities to fix this mistake.

All the subsequent remasters of GH are not clones of the original Demon CD, but rather fresh remasters from the original master tapes, so it's not as if they have to start with LFT...
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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:11 pm

They've all got it wrong, though (remember what Paul Rambali said?).
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Postby Lester Burnham » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:29 pm

johnfoyle wrote:Elvis wrote about promoting a single from this album -

http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/inde ... _1977-1987


There have been numerous opportunities to make a complete fool of myself, like being persuaded to be “flown” on a pantomime wire while miming to “I Can’t Stand Up For Falling Down” by those witty Top Of The Pops people, and then having to get blind drunk in order to do it because of a fear of heights.


http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/inde ... 1980-02-28
Top Of The Pops, Feb. 1980

This priceless moment is now on youtube-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-K0n9D50pQ

I hate to bump old threads (but I'll do it anyway – ha!) but does anyone happen to have this video anywhere? I've looked online but can't seem to find it. I remember it being quite hilarious, and Elvis looking a whole lot less than pleased at his predicament.

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:21 am

Found a clip of it on the TOTP archive, tiny window and rubbish quality and no highwire, so this is either not the one, or that bit is at start or end, both of which are missing.
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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:22 am

Well it's nice to see this done by someone who knew which was the real SIde 1!
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Postby the_platypus » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:11 pm

"Love for Tender" as the opener -> "Riot Act" as the closer is obviously the correct running order.

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:29 pm

Don't get me started! The original vinyl made it clear that 'I Can't...' is the side 1 opener (despite some playful ambiguity on the record labellling). For some reason Elvis has let them get it wrong on CD releases. And Graeme Thompson revealed his ignorance on this front too.

I was listening to some of these songs on headphones the other day and they all sound truly wonderful. The production is fascinating.
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Postby krm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:55 pm

the_platypus wrote:"Love for Tender" as the opener -> "Riot Act" as the closer is obviously the correct running order.


No it´s not!

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Postby sulky lad » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:37 pm

Oh yes it is !!
My 2 x45 rpm promo records of Get Happy state Record 1 Side 1 LFT to King Horse
Side 2 Possession to High Fidelity, Record 2 (XX Promo 1C !) Side 3 ICSUFFD to 5 Motel Matces and Side 4 Human Tpuch to Riot Act - I rest my case m'lud ! :lol:

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Postby the_platypus » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:06 pm

Otis Westinghouse wrote:Don't get me started! The original vinyl made it clear that 'I Can't...' is the side 1 opener (despite some playful ambiguity on the record labellling). For some reason Elvis has let them get it wrong on CD releases. And Graeme Thompson revealed his ignorance on this front too.


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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:18 am

sulky lad wrote:Oh yes it is !!
My 2 x45 rpm promo records of Get Happy state Record 1 Side 1 LFT to King Horse
Side 2 Possession to High Fidelity, Record 2 (XX Promo 1C !) Side 3 ICSUFFD to 5 Motel Matces and Side 4 Human Tpuch to Riot Act - I rest my case m'lud ! :lol:

That figures though as that's in line with the original release label, which went with this ordering, whereas, as above, the sleeve was the other way round. You can argue that the label is the discographic authority and to be followed, and the CD takes that approach (presumably sanctioned by EC), but I would argue that the sleeve was the real authority - the label's just a label, the sleeve represents the reality of the release.

Let's, for argument's sake, imagine that the sleeve is fashioned 'Get Happy!!' and the label 'Get Happy!'. What's the correct title? The former, of course.

Opposing case rested, m'lud.

Any evidence of EC commenting on this anywhere? Don't think the booklet notes touch on it.
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Re: 1979 , Get Happy sleevenote/'highwire Elvis'

Postby John » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:13 am

the_platypus wrote:
Otis Westinghouse wrote:Don't get me started! The original vinyl made it clear that 'I Can't...' is the side 1 opener (despite some playful ambiguity on the record labellling). For some reason Elvis has let them get it wrong on CD releases. And Graeme Thompson revealed his ignorance on this front too.


Yes, everyone is wrong but you.


No, I'm on Otis' side. I guess it's what your used to, but I have always listened to the album starting with the lead single ICSUFFD with MAn Called Uncle on side 2. :wink:


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