I´m About To Hear 'When I Was Cruel' For The Very First Time

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:52 am

It´s gonna be my 5th Costello record.
I already listen to 'My Aim Is True', 'Imperial Bedroom', 'Painted From Memory' and 'North'. What can i expect?

*though i know that probably its not gonna be as marvelous as 'My Aim Is True' or 'Imperial Bedroom'

noiseradio · Post by **noiseradio** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:19 pm

A rowdy rhythm record. It's really good, especially 15 Petals and Episode of Blonde. But I like the whole thing.

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:37 pm

I´ve heard that is a much rocker record than 'North' and 'Painted From Mermory'... it´s more or less like 'This Year´s Model' and 'Blood & Chocolate' (but since that i never listen both... i doesn´t help much)

Mr. Average · Post by **Mr. Average** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:37 pm

I am very interested to hear Bob and Charlottes takes on "Episode of Blonde"

HellboyOne · Post by **HellboyOne** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:49 pm

Hope you enjoy it. I remember not liking Episode Of Blonde until I heard and saw it live. The energy Elvis gives it on stage is electrifying.

R.

noiseradio · Post by **noiseradio** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:51 pm

Well, it's unlike any of the ones you've heard so far. I think you'll really like it.

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:52 pm

Mr. Average wrote:I am very interested to hear Bob and Charlottes takes on "Episode of Blonde"

i´ll let you know Mr. Average... tomorrow or even tonight... 'Episode of Blonde On Blonde' must be a very curious song

wehitandrun · Post by **wehitandrun** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:55 pm

Episode Of Blonde, the best.

<3,
s.

Jackson Monk · Post by **Jackson Monk** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:17 pm

never heard TYM and B&C ????

Wow....have you got a lot to look forward to!!

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:04 pm

Jackson Monk wrote:never heard TYM and B&C ????

Wow....have you got a lot to look forward to!!

Get Happy!!, King of America, Trust ...

wehitandrun · Post by **wehitandrun** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:11 pm

This Year's Model and Armed Forces will consume your life.

<3,
s.

jillbeast · Post by **jillbeast** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:24 pm

My fav is "My Little Blue Window"! I envy that you get to experience all of the albums for the first time. I can't go back to that innocence, but from what I remember it was an awesome experience! Especially Imperial Bedroom and KOA and B&C!! Oh, Spike and Get Happy! are great too! Oh, heck I just love them all! Get Taking Liberties or "Ten Bloody Marys..." too!

Jill

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:44 pm

'North', 'Painted From Memory', 'Imperial Bedroom' and 'My Aim Is True'.

'When I Was Cruel'. Bought last week and i´ll hear it tonight

'This Year´s Model' and 'Armed Forces' are on the way home. maybe next week!

so lacklustre · Post by **so lacklustre** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:40 pm

Enjoy, WIWC is in my top 5 EC albums, it's full of great songs. Alibi WIWCno2, Tart, The Dusts, Episode, My little Blue Window, 15 Petals, 45, Spooky Girlfriend + more more more

Watching_Detectives · Post by **Watching_Detectives** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:48 pm

I always wished When I Was Cruel no 1 was on When I Was Cruel...

I alos like Episode of Blonde!

wehitandrun · Post by **wehitandrun** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:33 pm

Oh man, Alibi is an EPIC.

My top five EC vocal performance list is totally wrong, alibi and Battered Old Bird need to be on there.

<3,
s.

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:58 pm

Is it right to judge an album based on the first listen?

Of course no. I remember (just can´t understand how) not liking The Stone Roses debut or Music From Big Pink or even 'Love and Theft' on the first listening... Today i love all those records!

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:37 pm

Mr. Average wrote:I am very interested to hear Bob and Charlottes takes on "Episode of Blonde"

Strange song Mr. Average.... Strange song...

Mr. Average · Post by **Mr. Average** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:48 pm

Give a particular listen to this lyric:

"Into the street where petty crime-coats shadow panic drunkards,
Half out of the taxi cab the barker seized my elbow
He thought I was another lonely, likely pilgrim looking for St.Telmo"

Does it sound like he is paying tribute to another Bob Dylan here? It does to me.

Bob And Charlotte · Post by **Bob And Charlotte** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:02 pm

The problem with me Mr. Average is that every song that i like - i said EVERY SONG THAT I LIKE - i find some connection with Bob Dylan.
It seems to me that before anyone did anything, Dylan did everything

laughingcrow · Post by **laughingcrow** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:27 pm

St Telmo...Erasmus?

Is this in reference to Erasmus, the saint.....whom not much is known about, (apart from the thuderstorm thing) or am I missing something?

Post by **BlueChair** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:30 pm

There was a Saint Erasmus? We learned about an Erasmus in my Poetry & Prose class this year.. a humanist scholar:

Erasmus (1469? - 1536)

One of the greatest scholar of all-times, he was called Prince of the Humanists and lived at the time of the Renaissance, a period of profound changes, characterized by the revision of most prevailing concepts and a return to classical sources.
The unparalleled popularity he had acquired made him, in his thirties, an eagerly sought after guest of kings and emperors, popes and cardinals, archbishops and bishops, lords and towns councilors, university heads, in other words, people who moved in the most distinguished circles of the day.

His best known work is the Praise of folly that he wrote on his way back from Italy, a pamphlet mainly directed against the behavior of ruling classes and church dignitaries while exposing the irony of mankind's vanities.

laughingcrow · Post by **laughingcrow** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:39 pm

Yeah, not the same Erasmus Blue...(there was a greek Erasmus as well wasn't there??) Saints have loads of different names, latinised versions and all that...I just had a look in my book, and it says...

St Telmo - Erasmus, Elmo. c300....stuff about his life...then it says 'patron saint of navigators...

makes sense now! ''looking for St Telmo''

Also the patron saint of colic and similar diseases! Nice! His feast day is June 2nd...so that can be Episode of Blonde day!!

Mr. Average · Post by **Mr. Average** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:24 pm

Thanks Laughing Crow. That fills in one of the 'blanks' I had on this song. It works. Thanks.

WhipsnSpurs · Post by **WhipsnSpurs** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:58 pm

I thought I read somewhere that "St. Telmo" was a pub somewhere too...

I personally can't get enough of When I Was Cruel. I just love all the different musical textures in it. My favorite, though I don't have all that many CD's (yet). Just got Imperial Bedroom, and so far....well....OK, but WIWC is better, I think....

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