Big Issue interview , May 2018

Pretty self-explanatory

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby johnfoyle » Wed May 09, 2018 11:41 am

Andy Gotts has tweeted another shot from this session - his photographs date from 2013 -

https://twitter.com/DrGotts/status/991777287526932481

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby johnfoyle » Wed May 09, 2018 11:50 am

A more regularly used shot -

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby johnfoyle » Wed May 09, 2018 11:51 am

And this one -

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Neil. » Wed May 09, 2018 3:07 pm

The bit about expressing joy is really interesting.

He has tons of joyous pop melodies (I'm glad he identifies himself as pop, because for me pop means melody - and boy, can he come up with a melody. He's underrated as a melodist - people rightly go on about his lyrics, but it's that skill allied to his genius with a tune that makes him special. His last release, 'You Shouldn't Look at Me That Way' shows his melodic gift is still firmly in place.)

So though it's true his melodies are often joyous (mixed with melancholy - the best combination!) - his lyrics often undercut that. That's part of his appeal, but has he ever done a total and utter, downright 'joy' song? 'Loveable' should be a joyous love song, but the lyrics undercut it. Suit of Lights has a joyous chorus - but with a melancholy tinge to it and its lyric.

But an unapologetic, 'glory of love' song... Hmm... 'I'll Wear It Proudly' might be his best.

(Hang on - I've got a feeling we've had this discussion before.)

But, for example, Paul Weller's 'You're The Best Thing That Ever Happened' is a straightforward joyous love song. Is there such a song in Elvis's catalogue?

Maybe Elvis is right!

(15 Petals is some sort of declaration of love - but I wouldn't use the word joyous!)

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Hawksmoor » Thu May 10, 2018 2:35 am

I think this is a lovely interview, and makes me like Elvis (as a person) more than I have for a long time. I've always believed (and still do) that he is the single greatest performer/singer-songwriter of our generation, but everything I had seen, heard or read, for decades now really, had made me think that I really didn't like him at all, as a person. To the point where, despite my admiration of his skill (bordering on worship), had somebody offered me the chance to spend an evening having a drink with him, I'd have passed on that.

That's not unique to Elvis, of course. I have a theory that many of our greatest artists are actually quite challenging (and possibly even rather unpleasant) as people. But this interview is sweet, honest (about some of the wrong turns he thinks he might have made) and ultimately, rather touching. As a performer/songwriter, he will always be my hero. But as a person, this interview has given me a much more sympathetic and admiring take on him than I'd ever had before.

So that's good. :D

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Hawksmoor » Thu May 10, 2018 2:40 am

Neil. wrote:But, for example, Paul Weller's 'You're The Best Thing That Ever Happened' is a straightforward joyous love song. Is there such a song in Elvis's catalogue?

There must be, surely?

'Lovable'? 'Sweet Pear'? 'My Three Sons'? Even 'Slow Drag' has references to some amusing/problematic aspects of a relationship, but is sincere in its expression of love for Josephine?

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby sulky lad » Thu May 10, 2018 2:59 am

Hawksmoor wrote
I think this is a lovely interview, and makes me like Elvis (as a person) more than I have for a long time. I've always believed (and still do) that he is the single greatest performer/singer-songwriter of our generation, but everything I had seen, heard or read, for decades now really, had made me think that I really didn't like him at all, as a person. To the point where, despite my admiration of his skill (bordering on worship), had somebody offered me the chance to spend an evening having a drink with him, I'd have passed on that.

That's not unique to Elvis, of course. I have a theory that many of our greatest artists are actually quite challenging (and possibly even rather unpleasant) as people. But this interview is sweet, honest (about some of the wrong turns he thinks he might have made) and ultimately, rather touching. As a performer/songwriter, he will always be my hero. But as a person, this interview has given me a much more sympathetic and admiring take on him than I'd ever had before.

Exactly what I've felt for far too long !
Great, Hawksmoor !

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby sheeptotheslaughter » Thu May 10, 2018 3:53 am

The last few songs on North are 'Joy' songs where he meets and falls in love with Diana I would say. Especially Let me tell you about her. Frank Skinner when he interviewed him at the time said he didn't like him happy.

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Neil. » Thu May 10, 2018 7:24 am

True, re 'Let Me Tell You...' and those other North songs.

I think 'Loveable' has a fab joyous feel, but the lyrics are actually criticising the lover.

Yep, Sweet Pear is amazing and should be a standard. There's a bleakness to it, too, though, with the apocalyptic ending.

My Three Sons - of course!

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Miclewis » Thu May 10, 2018 10:10 am

I always felt that "Put Your Big Toe In the Milk Of Human Kindness" was one of Elvis' rare "joyful" songs.

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby verbal gymnastics » Thu May 10, 2018 10:44 am

I think I might be Elvis:

Brought up by a single mum - tick
Can't dance - tick
Left-handed - tick
Supported Liverpool as a kid - tick

The jury's still out on the following:

My confidence as a teenager
My naturally argumentative contrary nature
Being kind of awkward
I should be better at expressing joy.
international laughing stock...

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby sulky lad » Thu May 10, 2018 2:40 pm

I notice no mention of vocal ability comes into the reckoning VG ! :wink:

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Neil. » Fri May 11, 2018 12:56 pm

Verbal, the only thing stopping me from thinking you ARE Elvis is the fact that more than once I've seen you in the same room as him!

Re joy - 'From Head To Toe' is pretty joyous in its execution, though the original joy is Smokey Robinson's.

And of course, you can always feel the joy Elvis feels when he makes a song - melodies, harmonies, lyrics, arrangements. I guess when he expresses misgivings about the joy he's able to express, he's referring to the persona he's become as a musician.

A Voice In the Dark - that's really joyful!

But a big, open-hearted, positive-vibe rhapsodic love song about a romantic love... I think 'I'll Wear It Proudly' might be the one, though the quirky (in a good way) lyric might have stopped it becoming mainstream.

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Hawksmoor » Sat May 12, 2018 12:58 am

Slightly surprised by the various suggestions of 'I'll Wear It Proudly'. I mean, I love it, and it can reduce me to tears, but if we're regarding those lyrics as 'an expression of pure joy', we're all in big trouble. :D

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby sulky lad » Sat May 12, 2018 2:26 am

Doesn't "Lovable" qualify even if it is, as best, one of his slightest songs ?

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Neil. » Sat May 12, 2018 5:16 am

Hawksmoor, you're right - the lyrics are very weird and dark, but the sound of the chorus sounds like an out-and-out love song.

Sulky - but surely Loveable's lyrics disqualify it? Isn't he saying that his ex-lover is having flings all round town? And he slags off her present lover, I think. But the sound is joyous, defo! And the last verse sounds like he's in love - but is it the same person as the one who's going round town being loveable?

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Re: Big Issue interview , May 2018

Postby Mr. Getgood » Thu May 17, 2018 7:11 am

Following the model of having a joyful melody but lyrics which are not is There's A Story In Your Voice. A very upbeat tune in my opinion.
I love you just as much as I hate your guts.


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