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Now on New Server

Postby DrSpooky » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:00 pm

I have switched us over to the new server. It looked like everything went well and everything is working again. I think I checked everything but it is always possible I missed something. So if you see anything amiss, please post and let me know.

In a few days, if all looks well, I will move the hard drive that had to be external on the old server to an internal slot on the new computer. That shouldn't require much down time.

Again a very big thank you to everyone who contributed to the purchase of the new server.

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Re: Now on New Server

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:16 am

Thanks, Doc. One thing I've noticed is that posts now take minutes to load, not a problem per se as it works, but definitely way slower than it used to be.
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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:17 am

hah - although this one was dead quick. Maybe it's just something oddly local to the 'Favourite Albums of 2010' thread!
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Postby DrSpooky » Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:27 am

Otis Westinghouse wrote:hah - although this one was dead quick. Maybe it's just something oddly local to the 'Favourite Albums of 2010' thread!


The only idea I have why anything would be slower on this machine was that the other machine was in a "steady state" where everything was cached. I purged the caches when moving to the new machine and maybe it is just settling in. An active thread probably was always served from RAM not disk. For a while, we were serving from disk. But that wouldn't explain seconds.

Note the time of day if this happens again. It is possible that backups or other automated activities are overlapping.

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:29 am

Well this gave me an excuse to post on the same thread (even if it was about 2011!), and I timed it: exactly 4 minutes. Managed to make a piece of toast before it loaded! This was at 10.30 GMT, so 5.30am in NY and maybe an hour or two earlier where you are. Browser is Safari on a Mac. Will also time this one and add how long it took...

... 2 seconds. Let's try one on the EC topics...
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:38 am

So the initial post above was almost instantaneous, in the familiar style, though the edited version was a bit slower. 20-30 secs. I posted on a current EC thread and that has 2'30". Conclusion: it varies, but some threads are especially slow.
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby bambooneedle » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:52 am

Maybe it's your Mac.







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Postby DrSpooky » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:46 am

bambooneedle wrote:Maybe it's your Mac.


Sorry, couldn't resist. :D


It could indeed be something specific to Safari. Maybe some html that Safari doesn't like. Any other Safari users notice anything?

I played with the site fire Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer.

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:41 am

But why would it suddenly be an issue now? had this same splendid Mac for several years now, so am well acquainted with the usual fast speed. Will try a post from Firefox to see.
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Postby Who Shot Sam? » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:27 am

I'm having the same problem - Mac, using Firefox.
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Postby DrSpooky » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:27 pm

Who Shot Sam? wrote:I'm having the same problem - Mac, using Firefox.


Is there a specific time or page where this happens?

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Postby Otis Westinghouse » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:56 pm

Seems to apply randomly and variously. Is it a Mac thing, then? Clearly not just a Safari thing.
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby sweetest punch » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:30 am

I have the same problem. It takes a long time (2 - 3 minutes) to load a post.
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby DrSpooky » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:58 am

sweetest punch wrote:I have the same problem. It takes a long time (2 - 3 minutes) to load a post.


What time of day? What URL?

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Postby Who Shot Sam? » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:49 pm

DrSpooky wrote:
Who Shot Sam? wrote:I'm having the same problem - Mac, using Firefox.


Is there a specific time or page where this happens?


Not that I can tell.
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby DrSpooky » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:01 pm

I don't know if it is related but the new server pulls more power than the old one and the UPS has apparently failed after 4 years. It did not provide enough power to even beep when I unplugged it. The computer was periodically going into a hibernation state. It did it twice this morning.

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Re: Now on New Server

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:49 pm

Just tried posting on the National Ransom thread, and it's taking ages again. Sorry!

http://www.elviscostellofans.com/phpBB3 ... f6c&t=8217

This comment went through immediately while the above is still chugging away. It's 1.45 am (blimey!).
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby Who Shot Sam? » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:34 am

FWIW I have no issues when I post on this sub-forum.
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby EarlManchester » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:57 am

Otis Westinghouse wrote:Just tried posting on the "National Ransom" thread, and it's taking ages again.
Perhaps it has something to do with the length of the thread. The National Ransom thread is currently 23 pages with 560 posts.

Do you experience the delay on other, shorter threads? If not, you could try posting on other long threads such as the "Relatively Insignificant EC Stuff" (19 pages, 463 posts) and "Elvis when you least expect it" (21 pages, 518 posts) to see if there's a similar delay.

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Re: Now on New Server

Postby DrSpooky » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:38 am

EarlManchester wrote:
Otis Westinghouse wrote:Just tried posting on the "National Ransom" thread, and it's taking ages again.
Perhaps it has something to do with the length of the thread. The National Ransom thread is currently 23 pages with 560 posts.

Do you experience the delay on other, shorter threads? If not, you could try posting on other long threads such as the "Relatively Insignificant EC Stuff" (19 pages, 463 posts) and "Elvis when you least expect it" (21 pages, 518 posts) to see if there's a similar delay.


I just posted to that thread and it was nearly instantaneous.

FWIW I assume that was 1:45 AM your time since your post shows up as 7:49pm in my local time. I see an automated monitoring program that runs at xx:15 and xx:45. I have turned it down to 2:15, 2:45, 16:15, and 16:45 local time.

FWIW there are performance monitoring graphs at http://elviscostellofans.com/munin/. Those can often show the type of activity.

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Postby Who Shot Sam? » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:06 pm

Just posted on the footy thread in The Annex. Took about 2 minutes to go through. Using Mac Snow Leopard 10.6.5, running Firefox.
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby Jack of All Parades » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:13 pm

I have been encountering of late when I log on a challenge to unscramble letters because I have supposedly failed in too many prior log on attempts. The problem is I have not been logging on previously incorrectly and making too many failed attempts. Either someone is trying to hack the site or there is some anomaly in the program. Chris
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Re: Now on New Server

Postby DrSpooky » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:41 am

Christopher Sjoholm wrote:I have been encountering of late when I log on a challenge to unscramble letters because I have supposedly failed in too many prior log on attempts. The problem is I have not been logging on previously incorrectly and making too many failed attempts. Either someone is trying to hack the site or there is some anomaly in the program. Chris


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Re: Now on New Server

Postby DrSpooky » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:32 am

In case you noticed and wondered, there was some up and down time yesterday evening. I moved a hard drive that had to be in an external USB case with the old computer and could be made internal with the new server.
While doing this, I resolved why only 3 of the 4 CPUs were active.

Also yesterday I bought new batteries for the UPS. They are now recalibrated and 100% charged. Tonight when I get home, there will be another 10-15 minutes of down time to put the server back on the UPS.

On the performance front, I have monitoring turned on and there was a BIG spike in network traffic around the time of the reported slow time. http://www.elviscostellofans.com/munin/localhost/localhost/index.html#network

If you see something odd or performance issues, let me know. I left as many settings as default on this computer and had highly tuned the old one.

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Re: Now on New Server

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:42 pm

Many thanks. Seems fine now. Yep, dead fast to post (especially on my nice, fast new Mac!).
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